Friday, June 17, 2005

Gavin Newsom: Hero & Scapegoat

Tue Nov 9th, 2004 at 08:57:42 PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/9/115742/107 (Original Post)

I read an article last week (link anyone?) on Salon about the all the negative calls (400) Gavin Newsom got last week as people tried to blame him for the loss -- which I think is inaccurate & just stupid.

He sounded tired & understandably defensive and yet, still graceful.

I don't doubt that some of the calls were ugly.

I don't doubt that he's a strong man -- what he did & stood up to required a great deal of strength. However, no man can stand the weight of so much negativity without feeling it.

I'd love it if he got some calls from us & other reality based people ("reals" in my book) --especially straight people like myself -- who can just let him know that whatever our differences (or sames) we still support the guy & that he did a heroic thing.

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I'm not saying we have to pass around flowers & spread love (altho that's not a bad thing) or even to agree with him. I for one have questioned the timing of the gay marriage issue (although I think we all support gay rights) http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/3/14458/8334

I just feel that a community that supports each other (whatever our differences) will be a stronger community.

I would be proud to belong to that community.

You might consider letting him know.

http://www.sfgov.org/site/mayor_index.asp

& remember, whatever our differences, I think we want the same things -- good jobs, better environment, freedom & equality for everyone.

Thanks, *ps. Btw, have you guys gotten over last week's hangover, yet??? Cuz I'm feeling like we're all licking our wounds & coming back together stronger.

A Hispanic for VP

Thu Nov 4th, 2004 at 13:11:54 PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/4/161154/676 (Original Post)

I know people keep pushing for breaking up the South's dominance. I wonder if we can't bypass them.

How? How about a Hispanic for VP...

I have no issues with Edwards -- I think he handled himself very well & is a good viable candidate for future runs.

But I was really looking forward to Bill Richardson (1/2 hispanic, 1/2 white) as a VP candidate.

Why? A hispanic on the ticket I think would've gotten us several states.

Definites (in my opin): New Mexico, Colorado, Florida,

Probables (my opin): Arizona. Others?

In Play: Nevada, Arkansas (just a few more tilts)

Making them work for it: Texas -- it's the only way we'll get Texas or make it competitive.

The first party to make a serious bid to the Hispanic community -- VP -- will get that community & much clout.

If we do this, we win (& I think would've won) Florida, NM, Colorado & the presidency.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CATER TO THE BUBBA IN SOUTH WITH HIS CONFEDERATE FLAG!!
it's all about checks & balances....in this case pitting the Southwest & Florida vs the South[east].

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If THEY do this, we're toast. & given the inroads they are making in that community, i really felt it important that we did it this time. & i worry that rove is savvy enough to do this.

Of course, hispanics as with any community don't like to be patronized & so would take any superficial gesture in that manner.

but you can't deny the power of having "one of your own" one heart-beat away from the presidency.

as a minority myself, i'd get very interested then myself.

Queers & pragmatism: Gay rights is bigger than Gay marriage

Wed Nov 3rd, 2004 at 11:45:08 PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/3/14458/8334 (Original diary)

There's alot of 2nd guessing right now & the queers (gay marriage issue) seem to be a favorite target/scapegoat.

Gavin Newsom & the leadership that got gay rights to the forefront are on the right side.

There's no excuse for bigotry, no excuse for treating honest people as 2nd class citizens.

& GOD DAMN IT - GOD NEVER SAID TO HATE EACH OTHER so f#ck all those bigots who believe otherwise. You will be judged harshly by history & one day by God. Burn in hell u f$ckers.

That being said.

Did the gay marriage issue hurt us at the polls? I think without a doubt it did. Facts:

*11 states voted against gay marriage - including Ohio.
*53% of seniors voted for bush, only 16% supporting gay marriage
*22% of the midwest electorate said "moral issues" was #1 & 80% of those voted for bush
*"moral issues" in the midwest was the #1 issue!!

Evangelicals - the ones Rove said did not show up as strongly in 2000 - did show in 2004.

Add to that a Catholic Church that was more political than 2000 - & you had a religious herd driven to the polls by the pulpit.

& they made the difference.

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So do we give up the fight? Do we wait our turn?

Hell no. But Gay rights is greater than Gay marriage. And, I'm sorry, but America voted that it was not ready for gay marriage.

We can get hospital visitation rights, health benefits, inheritence rights, -- real worlds rights that will make gays out of the closet & more fully integrated members of society.

These are soft issues -- polls have shown support for these issues.

& when society starts to see gays more as a part of themselves, they will be ready for gay marriage.

How do we ask people who have been supressed & detested & demonized to wait?

That is the toughest & most painful question. Pragmatism dictates however that we ask it.

I think we tried to get the whole thing & force it down America. Frankly, I don't know if we've done the footwork to earn that.

& I say earn knowing full well that these rights are God given & should be everybody's! As a minority, it DISGUSTS me to see another group discriminated against.

I know this will anger some people -- but we lost 4 years. 4 years that we'll face challenges & more obstacles.

In the end, we will win -- we are in the right.

However, we need to figure out what's the quickest way to do that & if we're impatient, if we don't do the footwork, if we do not discuss this issue (& others) pragmatically, we will continue to lose.

& then we will end up harming our own causes.

Gavin Newsome, the MA Supreme Court & all are heros. You should never criticize people who stand on principle & do it against such odds. All great movements had their radicals.

But we need to get there sooner not later.

& the question now is, how do we get there best & fastest?

In my humble opinion, it's through doing the footwork & building the coalition. All great movements that succeeded did this as well.

Well, I hope this generates a constructive dialouge. & make no mistake there were other issues. I just wanted to talk about one -- & no, not in any single way am I or should anyone scapegoat gays.